Please add Aerostar 600

Hi everyone,

I’d like to formally propose the addition of the Aerostar 600 to the SimFly aircraft catalog. With its recent release for MSFS 2024, this aircraft has quickly become — without exaggeration — one of the best twin piston-engine aircraft currently available in the simulator.

Not only does it offer excellent performance and a beautifully iconic design, but the level of detail, flight dynamics, and overall realism make it a true gem for those of us who love general aviation with personality.

It’s fast, versatile, and historically significant — and I truly believe it deserves a spot in SimFly, a platform that thrives on diversity, smart planning, and operational realism.

Many users would be thrilled to see the Aerostar 600 included, whether for regional routes, private charters, or simply as a more dynamic alternative in the twin-engine GA category.

I hope this aircraft can be seriously considered — it would be a fantastic addition to the fleet and a valuable upgrade for the entire community.

Best regards and happy flying!

are you sure it’s the best on msfs2024? are you really sure? but do you know that the Italian Piaggio P180 plane goes twice as fast as this aluminum can with wings? and is it much more comfortable than this kind of torpedo with wings? I’m sorry I don’t vote for it there are much better out there not to mention the DUKE. and thank goodness you wanted an ultralight for small trips let alone if you proposed a mini jet…aaaaa for me you want to do business you want to sell this product that isn’t even on the marketplace.

I’m not sure I understand your point. Does it really matter if the aircraft is bigger or smaller, faster or slower, or more comfortable in real life? At the end of the day, this is a simulator — not real life — and what really matters is having the aircraft that most people actually use in the sim available on SimFly.

Why should a faster aircraft be considered better than a slower one?
Why is a larger aircraft necessarily more valuable?

Those who enjoy flying ULMs have just as much right to enjoy the simulator as those who fly airliners.

A2A is one of the top developers in the sim community, along with PMDG, JustFlight, and BlackSquare. These are high-quality aircraft that many simmers actively fly, and they absolutely deserve to be available. I feel your comment doesn’t really help move this conversation forward. Personally, I believe that if we don’t have something constructive to add, it’s best to simply listen.

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I see you’ve written a passionate—albeit rather chaotic—response expressing your disappointment. While your enthusiasm for virtual aviation is commendable, it might be worth attempting a critique that demonstrates at least a basic grasp of technical accuracy and structured argument.

You mention the Piaggio P180 as if it’s the pinnacle of aircraft engineering, seemingly unaware that speed alone is hardly the only metric of value—especially when comparing aircraft designed for entirely different purposes. Comparing an ultralight to a twin-turboprop executive plane is about as meaningful as comparing a bicycle to a bullet train: both have wheels, and that’s where the similarities end.

Furthermore, your point quickly gets lost in a stream of confused phrasing, exaggerations, and clumsy analogies (“torpedo with wings,” “aluminum can with wings”… really?). If your goal was to discredit something, you might consider starting with a coherent thought instead of a rant that reads more like a tantrum than a critique.

In short: you don’t have to like it, but if you’re going to weigh in, at least try to bring something to the table besides noise.

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1.302 / 5.000
It’s normal that I have to discredit you, you got 13 votes while I only got 2 votes for my request for the single-engine M20… you initially arrived as new, introducing yourself and saying that you wanted to introduce ULM aircraft, then I come here and see that you proposed an Aerostar 600 and also saying that it is the best twin-engine in msfs2024… but do you realize? You moved from the ULM category to the AG one, among other things, by presenting a twin-engine that even elevated it to FIRST PLACE IN THE RANKING? no no no Friend there are many other planes better than this one… it’s true your plane in the TWIN-ENGINE PISTON category is the best of all the twin-engines but not precisely this model but the AEREOSTAR 700 model. So I suspect that you just want to do business… outclassing proposals and priorities of other requests that are superior to yours…there is the DUKE, there is the Havilland Dash 8 Cessna 421C Diamond DA62 etc.etc. and then I don’t understand why so much controversy from you and your friends I simply made a criticism admitting that I don’t vote for it and that you got 13 VOTES while I only got 2 seems a bit exaggerated to me…ok ok we’ll see the opinions of the other simmers as far as I’m concerned I don’t consider this plane a priority to add to SIMFLY.

Absurd conversations. You’re spending far too much time writing. On the other hand, communication and language do improve, but you could use the time to review the airplane specifications… :sweat_smile:

Sorry, I’m just kidding. But don’t waste so much time discrediting and comparing. There’s room for everyone, and if someone doesn’t like something, they can always have a chamomile tea. Tafe off and get more!

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Maybe he has gotten 13 votes in just a few days because he proposed an excellent aircraft to include in SimFly—one that everyone wants to fly—while you are suggesting basic Asobo planes that have nothing special about them.

Even so, you dare to speculate and accuse the other member of having questionable intentions. I believe your comments are very offensive and quite disturbing, as they completely go against any basic sense of community and mutual respect. That’s why I’m tagging @capodieci here, so he can judge for himself whether your comments are appropriate or not.

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No offense is being made here, but you are criticizing false statements when you say that it is the best twin-engine, the No. 1 of the twin-engines in FSMS2024. If you want, I can just show you the technical data. You are not at school talking to the children, and you are the class leader and you decide to punish me… ok, then I’ll show you right away.
Piper Aereostar 600 2 × Lycoming IO-540-K1J5 580hp speed 226 KTAS.autonomy 1161NM
Cessna Golden eagle 2 × Continental **GTSIO-520-L/N speed 240 KTAS autonomy 1500NM
Do you want me to list other planes that are better than the Aerostar 600? Then I don’t understand why you want to report me to CAPODIECI. I’m simply criticizing statements that are, moreover, incorrect… it’s not the best twin-engine aircraft, is that clear? You’re talking to amateur pilots here, not elementary school children who need to be grounded. I hope I was clear despite the English translation.

13 votes vs 2 votes. Nothing more to say.

Feel free to suggest any aircraft you consider appropriate, but do not belittle other people’s proposals or clutter their messages with accusations and meaningless real-world data when we’re in a simulator.

Personally, I find your attitude toxic, but it’s not up to me to judge. That’s why I’m inviting @capodieci to be the one to decide.

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This isn’t a competition, and no one should demand for a specific aircraft; simply suggest one and submit it it to a community vote. Many aircraft, in my opinion, are very similar and have small improvements. Often, it’s just a matter of personal taste, whether you own a specific model. Put a model to a vote; if it’s accepted, great; otherwise, fly it anyway as an unknown model. :grinning_face:

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Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts once again—and more importantly, for inadvertently confirming what’s at the heart of this discussion: frustration over receiving only 2 votes for your proposal, while mine received 13. I understand that can be disappointing, but that’s precisely why open platforms rely on community voting—to prioritize what the majority wants, not just what a few individuals insist upon.

Your considerations are, of course, your own and you’re absolutely entitled to them. But ultimately, this isn’t about personal preferences or categories someone “moved between”—it’s about what resonates with the broader community. If my aircraft suggestion earned more support, perhaps it’s worth reflecting on why, rather than assuming ulterior motives like “doing business” or conspiracies involving “friends.”

You may not consider this aircraft a priority, and that’s perfectly fine. The good news is, you don’t have to. The community, however, seems to be speaking differently.

All the best—and may the best aircraft win.

Thank you for your response and for contributing technical data to the discussion. It’s clear that you’re passionate about aviation and have taken time to compare specifications, which I genuinely respect.

That said, I’d like to clarify that at no point have I claimed to hold an absolute truth, nor have I attempted to “punish” anyone. This isn’t about asserting authority or deciding who’s right from some superior position—it’s simply about proposing, sharing, and voting in a community-driven environment.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion that the Aerostar 600 isn’t the best twin-engine aircraft. From my side, I expressed my view based on criteria that go beyond raw numbers—things like the aircraft’s history, versatility, and its potential appeal to the broader community. Evidently, others found merit in that, which is reflected in the vote count.

There’s really no need to turn this into a personal crusade. The process is transparent: everyone submits ideas, the community votes, and the outcome speaks for itself. Differences in opinion are normal—but mutual respect and a constructive spirit are what keep this space valuable.

Kind regards.

I totally agree with you. I just made a simple suggestion, like everyone else. If someone here sees it as a competition, it’s definitely not me… though apparently Symonx6 does. Not sure if he misunderstood what’s going on, or if he’s just proving that toxicity isn’t exclusive to Spanish forums :sweat_smile:

In any case, I really appreciate your reasonable and balanced take on the matter. Let the community vote, and let’s enjoy flying—whatever the model!

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I don’t remember where @Karim-CTO-SimFly said they couldn’t offer this plane because they don´t have a paintkit…

TACHAN!!!
https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=591814&hilit=paintkit#p591814

Please @Karim-CTO-SimFly we need this amazing plane!!!
Thanks!

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