Poi un asta è una cosa diversa.. c’è un prezzo di base basso, e poi chi offre di più. Oppure c’è un prezzo, io vedo altri con lo stesso articolo, e posso abbassare il prezzo, chissà.
I suppose its their decision to allow it or not
Hi! I kindly ask you to use English for this topic — there are other sections available if you prefer to write in Italian.
To answer your question: the Marketplace Users section is where you can purchase assets and PAX Tokens that other users have listed for sale. These are direct purchases.
In the future, if the community supports the idea, we may introduce an additional feature — for example, the ability to make an offer on an asset that is not currently listed for sale, directly from its detail page.
That’s all! I hope this helps.
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for me you can write in any language you want, the important thing is, and as I told you last time, you can express yourself well and easily, so I will then use the translator and translate it for you.
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Here is the only Italian category: https://forum.simfly.io/c/international/italiano/34
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That’s not what we consider a true “multi-account”.
For us, a multi-account occurs when a single person, using the same PC and the same client, manages to bypass the system and operate multiple flights at the same time on SimFly.
The case you’re describing is different: if someone uses three different computers, we can’t simply block them just because we suspect it’s the same person. That wouldn’t be legally justifiable, as they could easily claim the accounts are being used by a brother, cousin, or other family members.
That said, I’m still curious — you haven’t yet answered my question: which games, in your experience, actually block this kind of usage? I’d genuinely be interested to learn more.
If you’re open to discussing it in a respectful and constructive tone, we’re here to listen and happy to talk.
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yes, I saw that you created a forum only for the Italian language but in my opinion you are wrong because you should do it for all languages, so you complicate things… in my opinion everyone should write as they want, the important thing is not to make a mistake in writing because of the translation done badly by Google, so if it is easier for you to write in English, write in English, if instead it is easier for you to write in Italian, write in Italian etc. etc. Spanish French Japanese
I understand your argument that it’s not possible to distinguish whether it’s three family members flying or one person mining.
You ask about other applications. In the case of FSEconomy, they solve this by limiting one account per IP, while always offering the possibility to request multiple accounts by proving that they are indeed two or more different people.
Also, when granting multiple accounts, the agreement prohibits those accounts from interacting with each other, not using each other’s assets, not buying or selling anything between them to avoid abuse. This prevents me from having three accounts but sending you the ID card of my grandmother and grandfather.
But going back to the example that has been reported many times. If a person records a video showing exactly how they are mining passengers with their three setups, it’s not a question of whether you can detect it or not. It’s a question of them openly confessing their wrongdoing, and ignoring it does not help Simfly’s credibility nor does it foster a healthy community environment.
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If you dont translate for no errors. I Have to translate to understand and maybe with errors too.
English is not my native languaje and is not too easy to me, but I understand English is the universal languaje and specially the aeronutical languaje.
Just out of courtesy, we should all respect that.
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OK ok ok from this moment on we will all speak in ENGLISH but if there are translation errors and you don’t understand me I will be forced to speak in my own language, ITALIAN. in aviation in Italy the Italian language is spoken even for ATC communications it is not mandatory to speak in ENGLISH but the CONTROLLER on the ground is also able to communicate in almost all languages.
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Thank you for your explanation.
I’d like to clarify that one of the first solutions we considered was IP blocking. However, as you know, even a free VPN can easily bypass this system, making it ineffective in practice.
You mentioned that FSEconomy allows users to request multiple accounts, provided they can prove they are actually different individuals.
That’s something we will definitely look into, especially to understand what logic and tools they use to verify user identities in a reliable way.
I also find it interesting that their agreement prohibits any interaction between linked accounts: users cannot use each other’s assets or perform purchases or sales between those accounts.
Even in that case, though, it’s important to understand what methods they apply to ensure those users are truly distinct individuals — because, as you know, someone could create three accounts with three well-crafted fake identities, and it becomes very difficult to verify, especially if they simply claim a family member is using one of the accounts.
In any case, we will take the time to analyze how FSEconomy handles these situations. Thanks for pointing it out — it’s definitely a model worth studying.
Regarding your final observation: yes, we are fully aware of the issue.
But at this point, without concrete evidence, it’s still our word against the user’s.
If they claim that their brother is using the account, we have no objective way to prove otherwise.
We could consider a rule that prevents two or more related users from flying the exact same route — but you also know that this could cause issues for real groups who legitimately fly together.
That said, we are certainly not ignoring the problem.
We’re collecting as much information as possible so that we can address it properly, legally, and with the right tools.
the multi-account problem must be solved immediately because in the future we could all have multi-accounts if we wanted… imagine if all the users in SIMFLY all had multi-accounts what would happen? that SIMFLY would cease to exist within a week, so action must be taken immediately.
I repeat, this is not what we consider a true multi-account.
We’re talking about completely separate accounts, used simultaneously only if someone has multiple PCs, multiple flight simulators running, and performs missions in parallel — a scenario that, frankly, is far from common.
We are aware that one person out of a thousand might actually do this, and for that reason, we are actively evaluating all possible solutions to limit it in a proper and legal way.
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We’re not talking about a situation where someone creates 10 accounts and runs them all at the same time using the same client on the same PC and the same simulator — this type of behavior has been blocked on SimFly from the very beginning.
The situation being discussed is completely different: it involves separate simulators running on different PCs, operating simultaneously and independently.
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I explained to Roberto how you have to do to stop multiaccounts by applying those rules that I told you … i.e. apply the separations. and the only possible way that I know of at the moment on a technical IT level I don’t know but on a practical level this is the solution to adopt. However, we know very well what the purpose of multi-accounts is and is to withdraw Pax money in large quantities so only you can act on the applications to repay the money. My advice is not to activate them now but to wait until you resolve the multi-account situation.
The real issue is that in most other games, even if you have 3 consoles and 3 separate accounts, you still need to be actively playing — so it’s nearly impossible for a single user to replicate this kind of behavior.
In flight simulation, however, you can simply set the route, activate autopilot on 3 different PCs… and you’re done.
That’s why I was asking which other flight simulators actually block this kind of behavior, and how they do it.
Thanks to the information you’ve shared, we’ll also look into how FSEconomy handles these situations.
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It will be tough for them to get rid of multiple accounts. Roberto has recommended them in his videos, multiple times. According to Gianni, he specifically asked the devs, and they gave approval. It’d be tough to take it back now.
I’m here specifically to try and understand this issue together with you, using your feedback to help find a solution.
Anyway, if you’re that certain about your position, I’ll move on to something else. Thanks.
Personally, I don’t have an issue with multiple accounts. As long as pax aren’t directly transferable between the two, there is not much advantage as both still need to go through the leveling process as individuals. The argument that the two accounts can just fly to each others airport doesn’t wash either. It’s not much different from users forming alliances or friends getting together and only flying to their own airports. I know Simfly doesn’t want to limit that activity. As long as Pax cannot be concentrated in one account, I don’t see it as economy breaking.
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is not that we don’t want, we can’t on a coded manner. We should only rely on users ethics and consciousness, and as you know this means that good and honest people will end up at a disadvantage compared to people that don’t care. IMO the big issue is the show off. If the one person we know rather than doing all under the sunlight was stealth as others that do the same things, people don’t notice, nobody complains, as there is no direct tangible effect that can make people say “ah, someone must be flying with many accounts!”, as it is as if 3 different people were flying…
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